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Really really confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek article, that I didn't make clear ... my negative In respond to spitfirebill: I included that point since when I needed to discover a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go with each in every junkyard in South Jacket to discover one that wasn't sludged up truly severely.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to speak about a few concerns of these vans, but I I'm plainly not going to come out and state one is better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the very same car.
Mark: So, well, allow's start with engines then. Let's chat about engine and in fact simply to define that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you know, I mean, these vans have actually been around for a lengthy time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has actually been around given that, you recognize, around that time too. We're not going to get back right into, right into the earlier things. Given that 2000, I imply, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are a lot more preferred and I would not actually suggest a V6 engine.
There's a lot of concerns with these engines. In the earlier 2000 spark plugs with blow to these engines, since they didn't have enough threading in the trigger plug, which triggered problems.
So if you're acquiring anything from most likely 08 and newer, you're not going to have that kind of spark plug concerns. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will leakage, they'll establish coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold generally you have to replace the entire point.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I need to claim in their favour, due to the fact that I'm speaking about problems, it's a more sophisticated engine. Overhead camera, so you're obtaining more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is an easier design with press poles.
They're simply really quite excellent, durable, solid engines. You know, being a van, certainly, you understand, doing any type of solution on them is much more complicated due to the fact that you have actually obtained to get rid of that cover and enter servicing in unusual ways. Things like trigger plugs last an awful long time, so they do not need to be replaced very commonly.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like way back prior to the 2000 model year.
So, you recognize, that's still readily available. I would not suggest a diesel unless you're transporting incredibly hefty lots. Diesels require to be worked. That's truly the bottom line with a diesel. If you're a say, I don't understand, I'm simply going to state a plumber and you have actually got like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're towing a trailer behind it, that would be an actually great usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it appears like the diesels are, they appear to have much less problems in vans than they perform in the trucks. Probably due to the fact that they aren't functioned so hard, but when points take place, they're really costly to deal with. We have actually obtained a lot of videos and details concerning diesels, especially the Fords.
You truly need to think twice about getting a diesel in a van. And I will claim, Chevy is rather a lot restricted to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas guzzling engine.
If you're, and once more, we're simply speaking regarding kind of a directly, normal cargo van below. Look at your purpose, your use, exactly how much weight you're transporting and that'll aid you make the choice.
One point that we haven't discussed below is what type of van. These vans are, and it depends on what design, they're offered ever before from half ton to one ton chassis and really some of the exploded view vans are really much more sturdy, like, you recognize, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Typically the drive trains, you recognize, I locate them to be rather much equivalent. Mark: So allow's discuss guiding and suspension. How do they compare? Bernie: You recognize, I'm going to offer the side to Ford on this. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's much less steering affiliation included in a Chevy. So there are much less parts to wear. They do a round joints that break. Do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a bit longer than the Fords, however the, you recognize, the steering affiliation is much less difficult, so there's less parts and less products to wear out.
The experience in a Ford is most likely a little bit more truck like however I don't recognize if you 'd in fact ever before actually saw a distinction between the two. It appears like their components are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What regarding brakes? Bernie: Brakes are virtually the very same, yet I will certainly state that it looks like with Fords, the method they construct their brake calipers, that they often tend to require to be replaced nearly every time you do a brake work.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake work. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dirt boots torn, therefore the caliper needs to be changed. I assume on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a bit even more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to digress back before the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had really bad doors. I indicate, the sliding doors were crap, you know, truly badly built. Actually, I would state that if you are also taking a look at something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their vehicles generally really took a jump onward in quality around the 2000 design year, because there was a whole lot of stuff where the brakes for instance would certainly not last long in any way.
If we're looking at the 2000 newer, I indicate, I 'd claim they're both possibly quite much matching in quality, fit and surface, you understand, some of the traveler vans, of training course we'll have better consultations than the cargo vans. I can't state that one of them stands out to me a little bit more than the various other.
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